Using SAFC/VAFC, chipped ecu or stock ecu??

[2civic3]

Can someone clear this one for me:hammer: . When using SAFC/VAFC, should I chipped my uce or leave it stock. Can you guys help me understand this kind of engine management. Thanks in advance!!:TU:

[gloryhog]

when you chip your ecu you allow the fuel,ignition timing maps to be altered via ...Crome,uberdata,turbo-edit,etc....

When you use a VAFC,SAFC, you basically change the signal to the injectors sent from the ecu....allowing them to stay open longer or shorter amts. of time...thus making the Air fuel ratio richer or leaner...
there would essentially be no need in using both being that the chipped ecu already has fuel remapping covered....

[2civic3]

ok so youre saying i dont need to chipped my ecu if im going to use SAFC/VAFC?

[dustin_crxsi]

Maybe, not sure about non-vtec cars... I have a vafc2. But I use it only for my vtec.

[2civic3]

Maybe, not sure about non-vtec cars... I have a vafc2. But I use it only for my vtec.
So did u chipped ur ecu using VAFC2??

[dustin_crxsi]

im not sure what you said. The ecu is stock, the only fuel management part i used was for vtec unmatched, more fuel when vtec engages because the stock computer thinks vtec engages at stock point

[2civic3]

u did nothing to ur uce using VAFC2 right??

[hcivicbrat]

We'll Before I Had Turbo On My D16y8 , Iwas Running A Jet Chipped Obd Ii With A Vafc Controller It Was Making Better Power Than My Stock Computer.

[dustin_crxsi]

u did nothing to ur uce using VAFC2 right??

I turned the vtec to 4500 rpm's I changed the vtec unmatched all the way up, so when vtec engages, it enriches the mixture, because the ecu thinks the car isnt running vtec yet.

http://www.apexi-usa.com/product_electronics_detail.asp?id=201&pageNum=1

Go here and read about it.

[hcivicbrat]

I know ever cars different, my settings VTEC L-H 5500 H-L4800 v/t unmt
H-L 27% L-H 12%. plus I had a zex cam stage II made good power..

[Sohc Wrath]

Just convert to obd1 and chip it with crome :TU:

[hcivicbrat]

Now I'm running turbo !!! :p So I goning to sell my old stuff

[dustin_crxsi]

how much did it take to get ecu chipped james?

[Sohc Wrath]

how much did it take to get ecu chipped james?

I payed $40 for the p28, and paid another $30 to my buddy to convert it to manual and chip it. Pretty good deal if you ask me :TU:

[hcivicbrat]

I wish we all had friends like that!!!! lol

[Sohc Wrath]

I wish we all had friends like that!!!! lol

Yep, both of them are pretty cool guys...

[dustin_crxsi]

I payed $40 for the p28, and paid another $30 to my buddy to convert it to manual and chip it. Pretty good deal if you ask me :TU:

it keeps contuning down the line :TU:

[gloryhog]

ok so youre saying i dont need to chipped my ecu if im going to use SAFC/VAFC?

Well it depends on what you are trying to accomplish...if complete tuning is the goal than chipping your ecu and using one of the already mentioned software's to burn a chip is the way to go .... in this case you dont need to use a VAFC, SAFC....because the chipped ecu has all of the capability's of the vafc and safc plus a ton of other features...

if you just want a light show and some motec exaust then get the safc...:hammer: