View Full Version : So does this mean no more wheelhop?
ryan89crx
08-01-2006, 05:23 PM
well i broke down and bought a traction bar. even after i fixed my torn motor mount, the hop was still getting to me. i even had torque position inserts and strut rod bushings :mad:
i will be installing Prothane bushings in the upper mounts and then a JKMotorsports traction bar. if this doesnt stop it, then i must have something seriously wrong :smile:
Overall i give the bar(looks) about a 7.5 out of 10. the pics on the site made it look a lot prettier, not that looks really matter...
as for packaging, i give it a 1 out of 10. it was basically just bouncing around in the oversized box with no packing whatsoever. just a few chunks of small styrofoam, which did nothing but make a mess as it was pretty much demolished. i guess i was expecting a little better, even though these were a damn good deal.
here is a pic, i should have a review soon. gonna go beat on it as soon as i get my motor back in the car :TU:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar1.jpg
jimmyb34
08-01-2006, 06:04 PM
get that bitch in there NOW lol
CrazyConscious
08-01-2006, 06:54 PM
Sweet, i cant wait to get one of those...
S Q A D
08-01-2006, 07:17 PM
ohhh dope .... :TU:
cant wait to hear about them after you get that shit installed
DirtyDC4
08-01-2006, 10:04 PM
Saweeeet.
How much do they run? I know the Full-Race one is in the $350-$400 range.
NEP-tuningalltheway
08-01-2006, 10:05 PM
it means 6k launches and go
ryan89crx
08-02-2006, 12:11 AM
How much do they run? I know the Full-Race one is in the $350-$400 range.$277 shipped, the EG/DA ones are even cheaper :TU:
ok, so i work on the car tonight. man that was a change, lol.
Overall impressions so far:
Fitment - 6 out of 10 :shocked: on the driver side, the towhook holes wouldnt line up for shit! i have the driver side on just a few threads and the 2 original crossmember bolts in barely and it just wouldnt line up. i had to use a long punch and stick it in one of the holes and pry the bar over to get the bolts started. i was only able to get 2 in, i fought with it for over 2 hrs :mad: then the rad holes werent spaced correctly, i had to grab my drill and hog out the holes to get the lower tabs to fit...
you can see the missing bolt in the first pic
Ease of installation(1 being easy and 10 being difficult) - 6 out of 10. everything worked like it should, except the few things listed above.
so far it looks pretty damn good. im going to need an alignment, but it looks damn stout :TU:
Money shots:
installed...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar2.jpg
towhook mounting
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar4.jpg
NEP-tuningalltheway
08-02-2006, 12:14 AM
cool man now you just need to drop a motor in there and get some vid
Sohc Wrath
08-02-2006, 12:14 AM
Badass, they are def worth the money from what people tell me :TU:
ryan89crx
08-02-2006, 12:14 AM
motor back in :TU:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar6.jpg
from the bottom, man that tranny is oily!! hehe, dizzy o-ring leaked like a motherfucker
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar7.jpg
NO MORE GANGSTA LEAN!!!!1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/trac_bar8.jpg
and finally the Protane inserts. the upper driver side was a bitch!! it wouldnt go in at all. it would hit rubber immediately and stop. so i rigged up a way to get it in with minimal physical effort. went in fine with this. tranny one was easy, i managed to get it in by hand
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/prothane_insert1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/prothane_insert2.jpg
NEP-tuningalltheway
08-02-2006, 12:15 AM
guess i replied to soon lol
ryan89crx
08-02-2006, 12:16 AM
im about 20 minutes away from getting the bitch to fire up, but im tired as hell. the plan was to get it up and running so i could hit the track tomorrow, but unless i get off work early to finish i dont think its going to happen :sad:
i just need to top off the radiator, fill the tranny, and put the wheels on and i can start it. although i want to install my new GE vac mani, so that might take a few mintutes as well...
modsHXcivi
08-02-2006, 12:18 AM
NO MORE GANGSTA LEAN!!!!1
Y0!!! Real Gangsta...::TU:
Looking good !!!!
NEP-tuningalltheway
08-02-2006, 12:20 AM
im about 20 minutes away from getting the bitch to fire up, but im tired as hell. the plan was to get it up and running so i could hit the track tomorrow, but unless i get off work early to finish i dont think its going to happen :sad:
i just need to top off the radiator, fill the tranny, and put the wheels on and i can start it. although i want to install my new GE vac mani, so that might take a few mintutes as well...
fuck it dude you came this far allready get it done :TU::TU:
ryan89crx
08-02-2006, 12:29 AM
fuck it dude you came this far allready get it done :TU::TU:i have to be up in 6hrs for work...
im going to try and get off early tomorrow. its about 1hr20min drive to the track and it opens at 6. that means i need to be gone by 4:30, which is when i usually get off.
i really need to get that vac mani on so i can get an accurate reading to my Profec. i also want to do a little more tuning before i take off. im really doubting that ill make it :sad:
NEP-tuningalltheway
08-02-2006, 12:31 AM
yea dude i personally would take a sick day but you gotta make cash so...
all_rice
08-02-2006, 12:33 AM
Looking good. Do they tell you how much to adjust the arms or is that what the alignment guys will do?
NastyHabitzCRX
08-02-2006, 01:11 AM
you mind of posting a pic of the radius rod mounting? i may have O'dizzle make me one:p
transzex
08-02-2006, 01:13 AM
once suspension is ok, wheel hop comes from lack of power, or too much traction.
Stock EG with ES bushing, never a wheel hop issue.
NastyHabitzCRX
08-02-2006, 01:28 AM
hmm very interested;) where did you get these? i have never seen a mount for the driver side
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/prothane_insert1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/prothane_insert2.jpg
ryan89crx
08-02-2006, 09:15 AM
hmm very interested;) where did you get these? i have never seen a mount for the driver sidewww.energysuspensionparts.com :TU:
once suspension is ok, wheel hop comes from lack of power, or too much traction.
Stock EG with ES bushing, never a wheel hop issue.
ive touched on this issue many times with no real answer. i already said i had inserts and strut rod bushings. combine that with Tokico Blues and H&R sports and had tons of wheelhop? where am i going wrong?
Steve-O
08-02-2006, 09:42 AM
www.energysuspensionparts.com (http://www.energysuspensionparts.com) :TU:
ive touched on this issue many times with no real answer. i already said i had inserts and strut rod bushings. combine that with Tokico Blues and H&R sports and had tons of wheelhop? where am i going wrong?not trying to rub salt in the wound ryan and i know my engine is no where near the league of yours, but even my stock b7 with bolt ons had CRAZY wheelhop in the rain when i got the tires spinning. when i added the ES hyper flex master set in addition to the three lower motor mount inserts, i could literally spin the tires on wet pavement all day long without complaint.
if you have motor mount inserts in all your mounts (or whole mounts themselves) and all your suspension pieces are solid and in good condition, i don't see where you would still be getting wheelhop. i'd just hate to see you spend all kinds of money to eliminate wheelhop when it may be something that just needs to be upgraded or replaced.
but then again i'm don't drag my car (lol heck i can't even drive it right now) so you likely know alot more than i do :p
ryan89crx
08-02-2006, 09:52 AM
if you have motor mount inserts in all your mounts (or whole mounts themselves) and all your suspension pieces are solid and in good condition, i don't see where you would still be getting wheelhop. i'd just hate to see you spend all kinds of money to eliminate wheelhop when it may be something that just needs to be upgraded or replaced.i hear you there. rain i spin no problem, if i have shitty tires i just rip them up with no hop. but i have these Nittos now and they just hop like hell
ive looked over the suspension to see if anything was wrong or bad and the only real thing i found was the motor mount. i replaced that and still had issues :confused:
the springs are a few years old, but the struts maybe a year at the most. and i probably only have about 10k on them.
maybe i need to look it over again to see if there is another problem...
Steve-O
08-02-2006, 10:01 AM
i hear you there. rain i spin no problem, if i have shitty tires i just rip them up with no hop. but i have these Nittos now and they just hop like hell
ive looked over the suspension to see if anything was wrong or bad and the only real thing i found was the motor mount. i replaced that and still had issues :confused:
the springs are a few years old, but the struts maybe a year at the most. and i probably only have about 10k on them.
maybe i need to look it over again to see if there is another problem...hmmmm
i admit i'm not well versed when it comes to drag racing and the problems associated with it but the wheel hop sounds like it's coming from play somewhere in your engine mounting or suspension. it might be a good idea to make a list of probable causes and inspect all parts top to bottom. then start knocking them off one by one as you check them over. kind of like i do at work here when we get a major service in. check ball joints, tie rods, bushings, mounts, etc if you haven't already.
trust me man, i'm anal that way too when it comes to clunking noises from the suspension. unless it sounds absolutely solid, it drives me bonkers until i find what part has play in it :roll:
NastyHabitzCRX
08-02-2006, 04:40 PM
i hear you there. rain i spin no problem, if i have shitty tires i just rip them up with no hop. but i have these Nittos now and they just hop like hell
ive ...that sound like half your problem there. you should invest in a set of BFGs like me and not have traction issues
course your car will hook like mad with both on there:)
ryan89crx
08-02-2006, 10:36 PM
so i took her for a spin tonight. first time driving the damn thing in like 2 months, lol. have a few issues that need to be worked out, one being the TPS on this new LS TB...
i need to figure out how to set this trac bar up, im not sure if i have it right. i just spun the rods until it felt tight, which pulled the wheels forward in the wells. im not sure if thats how its supposed to be. so im going to check around for proper adjustment.
but, a preliminary review...
AWESOME!! did a few rips through the gears and one launch. hitting second felt SOLID! tires instantly spun with no hop and acceleration felt much smoother/faster :TU:
the launch... only revved it to about 3500 with the e-brake on and the clutch pre-loaded. dumped it and let the brake off, spun for a second, gripped, then hit full boost and just lit the tires. felt really smooth, with no hop at all :TU: i can see my 60fts dropping already :smile:
jimmyb34
08-03-2006, 05:26 AM
sounds awesome man, is this with the new turbo setup on it yet???
ryan89crx
08-03-2006, 05:53 AM
sounds awesome man, is this with the new turbo setup on it yet???nope, still just the .42/.48. havent even started the new setup :neutral:
necro
08-03-2006, 06:34 AM
I received mines a few weeks ago. Didn't have much of a problem w/ installation went in smoothly. I need a alignment, but other than that mines feels good.
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