View Full Version : What Turbo Maifold Are People Using
tobyzhrv
07-27-2006, 08:26 AM
hi guys
i'm just wondering what turbo maifold people are using on there turbo d16 and what turbos so i can get an idea of what results and what are the bes combos out there ???
93reddelsol
07-27-2006, 08:27 AM
Ram horn, hf mani, ones I have used.
myHonda1
07-27-2006, 08:42 AM
i got a log mani...
kyle h.
07-27-2006, 09:47 AM
fake drag
ryan89crx
07-27-2006, 10:13 AM
homemade log FTW!!!!1
skoracing
07-27-2006, 11:50 AM
jg-fab super elf.
malubawla
07-27-2006, 12:02 PM
log mani
vtec_bomber
07-27-2006, 12:54 PM
SSAUTO manifold for now. Got it for free so I won't complain about it. Will upgrade to a log later down the road with bigger turbo.
TurboMaster
07-27-2006, 02:01 PM
hi guys
i'm just wondering what turbo maifold people are using on there turbo d16 and what turbos so i can get an idea of what results and what are the bes combos out there ???
NONE:latest project is a rear mount turbo system:shocked:
ryan89crx
07-27-2006, 02:07 PM
NONE:latest project is a rear mount turbo system:shocked:eww! extra cost for no gain over a standard setup...
TurboMaster
07-27-2006, 02:09 PM
eww! extra cost for no gain over a standard setup...
because of the lower turbo temp and seperate oil system there is alot to be gained,the intake to the front is 10 feet long and acts as an intercooler,the oil also doesnt get contaminated,also the exhaust after the turbo is only 2 feet of pipe so no gains????
ryan89crx
07-27-2006, 02:10 PM
because of the lower turbo temp and seperate oil system there is alot to be gained,the intake to the front is 10 feet long and acts as an intercooler,the oil also doesnt get contaminatedyou do realize that heat is one of the major factors that help spool a turbo right? its not just about airflow through it
TurboMaster
07-27-2006, 02:14 PM
you do realize that heat is one of the major factors that help spool a turbo right? its not just about airflow through it
i speak from experience this is the second car ive done first was an eclipse gsx and it spanks
TurboMaster
07-27-2006, 02:23 PM
i speak from experience this is the second car ive done first was an eclipse gsx and it spanksNOT MY WORDS!
# Cooler oil to the turbo. Cool oil is better for both the turbo and engine.
# Approximately 500°F lower turbo temperatures. Eliminates the need for a turbo-timer, which allows the engine to run after the car is shut off in order to cool down the turbo and prevent oil and bearing damage.
# Denser exhaust gasses drive the turbo turbine wheel more efficiently.
# Built-in intercooling. Intake piping provides ~50% intercooler efficiency. There is no need for the expense, pressure drop, and installation problems associated with a front mounted intercooler.
# Turbo is exposed to ambient air rather than underhood air. Allows for better cooling of turbo components.
# No need for expensive headers, mufflers, or exhaust systems.
# Turbo is closer to the tail pipe outlet. Provides a better pressure differential across the turbine wheel which promotes better flow across turbine.
TurboMaster
07-27-2006, 02:31 PM
you do realize that heat is one of the major factors that help spool a turbo right? its not just about airflow through itive turboed over 20 cars and have never seen the gains that i did on the rearmount from a front mount,real life experience working with cars for a long time>reading all day on the internet
areskzc
07-27-2006, 03:20 PM
OUT OF THREAD!!!!!!!!!!
It's a very intersting debate, MAY I suggest you to get to the debate forum!?
(please go to the debate forum, I will like to see some pictures about the Eclipse you talked about. Thanx)
Cast Mani for mine.
ive turboed over 20 cars and have never seen the gains that i did on the rearmount from a front mount,real life experience working with cars for a long time>reading all day on the internet
http://ststurbo.com/home
Rear mounted turbos... They seem to work well. HOWEVER: Where are you going to run the intake piping on a honda? right next to the exhaust... Therefore it will heat up the air charge instead of cooling it...
The rear mounted turbo works on trucks and other cars because they have room for the piping...
froggie3kb
07-27-2006, 03:42 PM
I'm using a pimplicious HF manifold...:lol:
sohcturbo
07-27-2006, 03:52 PM
Custom garage built top mount :TU: FTW.......
csaddict
07-27-2006, 04:48 PM
I run what ever I feel like making!
ryan89crx
07-27-2006, 06:23 PM
I run what ever I feel like making!+1
bigzgvr4
07-27-2006, 10:37 PM
Greedy Manifold.
i just bought one. with one of the studs Half Broken. i will Try to Fix it. Got it FOr Cheap.
TurboMaster
07-28-2006, 05:17 AM
http://ststurbo.com/home
Rear mounted turbos... They seem to work well. HOWEVER: Where are you going to run the intake piping on a honda? right next to the exhaust... Therefore it will heat up the air charge instead of cooling it...
The rear mounted turbo works on trucks and other cars because they have room for the piping...
its not where am i,its where did i?the turbo is mounted inside the car,i dont mount external rear turbo's because of the chance of theft and i ran the intake piping inside the car.i do things my way i dont try to copy others
ryan89crx
07-28-2006, 07:14 AM
its not where am i,its where did i?the turbo is mounted inside the car,i dont mount external rear turbo's because of the chance of theft and i ran the intake piping inside the car.i do things my way i dont try to copy othersso you run your exhaust through the car?
myHonda1
07-28-2006, 07:35 AM
so you run your exhaust through the car?
no need for an air freshner then
superdewey58
07-28-2006, 08:48 AM
home made log mani
hooray for the tig
4drturboD
07-28-2006, 10:06 AM
its not where am i,its where did i?the turbo is mounted inside the car,i dont mount external rear turbo's because of the chance of theft and i ran the intake piping inside the car.i do things my way i dont try to copy othersso you run your exhaust through the car?
this sould be interesting to see. quit talkin about it and lets see how this thing works. i can't imagine that car being fun to drive with all the noise and heat.
98_4drCivic
07-28-2006, 12:03 PM
ignorance.
rear mounted turbo's can run VERY good. ever heard of the STS kits for LS1 camaro's/TA's?
As for the part about running the charge piping through the car, have you ever seen the Procharger (usually fox body mustang) guys that run 4 inch charge piping through their car to an air to water intercooler thats chillin in the back seat? yeah, not so retarded then, is it?
Just because what he is doing is different for the honda community, doesn't mean it won't work, or make efficient power.
flame suit on. :razz:
ryan89crx
07-28-2006, 12:34 PM
ignorance.
rear mounted turbo's can run VERY good. ever heard of the STS kits for LS1 camaro's/TA's?
As for the part about running the charge piping through the car, have you ever seen the Procharger (usually fox body mustang) guys that run 4 inch charge piping through their car to an air to water intercooler thats chillin in the back seat? yeah, not so retarded then, is it?
Just because what he is doing is different for the honda community, doesn't mean it won't work, or make efficient power.
flame suit on. :razz:check my first post on the topic. extra money for no gain. thats exactly what it is. if it were an efficient, cheap, and easy way to make power everyone would be doing it. how many high hp rear turbo setups have you seen on Hondas? NONE! fact of the matter is that you wont make as much power as an equal length mani and big turbo because of a lot of reasons...
98_4drCivic
07-28-2006, 01:25 PM
check my first post on the topic. extra money for no gain. thats exactly what it is. if it were an efficient, cheap, and easy way to make power everyone would be doing it. how many high hp rear turbo setups have you seen on Hondas? NONE! fact of the matter is that you wont make as much power as an equal length mani and big turbo because of a lot of reasons...
well, in that case, everyone that buys a full race topmount manifold is a moron, because gains over a ccfab or lovefab mani are minimal. but what do i know. I don't see how its any extra money when compared to that. When you're building a high HP car, no matter what platform you're using, its going to cost a lot. Arguing over a few hundred bucks is completely ludicrous. How many people in this thread are ever going to build enough horsepower to justify buying the 1400 dollar manifold (or even the 1100 equal length) from full race, when you could buy a cheaper mani that performs damn near as well?
The bottom line is that you've never put together a rear mount turbo setup. So, where is your proof that there is no gain? Until you provide specific examples with dyno charts and timeslips, all of this is just speculation.
On a side note, i'd really like to see this project take shape...i'd really like to see pics since its so different. :TU:
Anyways, since im just a little domestic guy turned turbo honda guy, I suppose i'll stay out of this thread.
BoostBoy
07-28-2006, 01:35 PM
Log style , like the BMC maifolds,with T3/T4 57 trim
275hp on stock 1.5
Hellhatch
07-28-2006, 01:38 PM
Greddy cast manifold.
ryan89crx
07-28-2006, 02:19 PM
well, in that case, everyone that buys a full race topmount manifold is a moron, because gains over a ccfab or lovefab mani are minimal. but what do i know. I don't see how its any extra money when compared to that. When you're building a high HP car, no matter what platform you're using, its going to cost a lot. Arguing over a few hundred bucks is completely ludicrous. How many people in this thread are ever going to build enough horsepower to justify buying the 1400 dollar manifold (or even the 1100 equal length) from full race, when you could buy a cheaper mani that performs damn near as well?
The bottom line is that you've never put together a rear mount turbo setup. So, where is your proof that there is no gain? Until you provide specific examples with dyno charts and timeslips, all of this is just speculation.
On a side note, i'd really like to see this project take shape...i'd really like to see pics since its so different. :TU:
Anyways, since im just a little domestic guy turned turbo honda guy, I suppose i'll stay out of this thread.im not against the setup, i give props for originality. but until i see a high hp Honda setup like that(hasnt happened yet) im going to be skeptical. saying that it will perform just as good when nobody has had one that made any good hp is just an assumption. and assumptions dont make hp. ill stick with the proven methods of making hp...
TurboMaster
07-28-2006, 07:12 PM
im not against the setup, i give props for originality. but until i see a high hp Honda setup like that(hasnt happened yet) im going to be skeptical. saying that it will perform just as good when nobody has had one that made any good hp is just an assumption. and assumptions dont make hp. ill stick with the proven methods of making hp...
thats true but the eclipse i did took a long time,the exhaust is outside the car the intake is inside and there is no noise other than an awsom e whoosh when you romp it,you guys really should consider doing one sometime its amazing the power it makes when the air and turbo stay cooler,and the oil is not engine oil but just turbo oil,theres alot of benefit and we saw no increase in lag infact it boosted sooner,cant explain why but the car is amazing now as all of you at first i was skeptical but after the eclipse project im all for it,peace
98_4drCivic
07-28-2006, 11:14 PM
im not against the setup, i give props for originality. but until i see a high hp Honda setup like that(hasnt happened yet) im going to be skeptical. saying that it will perform just as good when nobody has had one that made any good hp is just an assumption. and assumptions dont make hp. ill stick with the proven methods of making hp...
At one time, there wasn't such a thing as a turbo honda, period. Someone has to do the research. Rear mount setups have been proven to make power on other platforms, and I see no reason why it wouldn't work on a honda as well.
X292J
07-29-2006, 04:18 AM
An SSAC, and its still going long after i had signed up for DS.
to the thing about remote mount turbos..., why dont i see them on racing vehicles then?
ccfab
07-30-2006, 01:12 AM
Log style , like the BMC maifolds,with T3/T4 57 trim
275hp on stock 1.5
yea, thats fuckin classic.
Special K
07-30-2006, 09:08 PM
Rear mount setups have been proven to make power on other platforms, and I see no reason why it wouldn't work on a honda as well.
Just because it works, doesn't mean it works well. There's ALOT more room in a honda engine bay than a 4th gen Fbody engine bay, I don't see any reason to do a rear mounted turbo honda except for the shits and giggles.
TurboMaster
07-30-2006, 09:16 PM
check my first post on the topic. extra money for no gain. thats exactly what it is. if it were an efficient, cheap, and easy way to make power everyone would be doing it. how many high hp rear turbo setups have you seen on Hondas? NONE! fact of the matter is that you wont make as much power as an equal length mani and big turbo because of a lot of reasons...
i know of 2 acuras that count?
eh3 93
07-30-2006, 09:23 PM
I have a CCfab short ram but still in the process of building the motor so its not on.
JoelAllenClear
07-30-2006, 09:24 PM
Show me a rear mount 300hp D-series and then I'll consider rear mount as anything remotely serious. Til then... equal-length and ramhorn ftw!
csaddict
07-31-2006, 03:36 AM
THe only reason they rear mount on the GM cars is for lack of room under the hood. It wouold be absolutely retarded to do on a Honda.
bigwig
07-31-2006, 04:08 AM
THe only reason they rear mount on the GM cars is for lack of room under the hood. It wouold be absolutely retarded to do on a Honda.
Why these kids can't get that through their thick head is beyond me.
98_4drCivic
07-31-2006, 09:58 AM
Just because it works, doesn't mean it works well. There's ALOT more room in a honda engine bay than a 4th gen Fbody engine bay, I don't see any reason to do a rear mounted turbo honda except for the shits and giggles.
But, the principles are the same, and it works. That is all im saying :lol: Im a penny pincher, so i'd rather do things the way I KNOW it will work, that way I don't waste my money. However, if someone else wants to fund a project thats a little bit different, im going to encourage it, and not just tell them that they're stupid and the setup won't work.
Why these kids can't get that through their thick head is beyond me.
So if someone disagree's with you, they're a kid?:roll: :lol:
csaddict
07-31-2006, 05:29 PM
I'm 30. You're all kids.
jimmyb34
07-31-2006, 05:30 PM
whats the deal with all the jocking of this rear mount shit in a few threads???
save it for a camaro, PLENTY of room in a civic, crx or any honda/acura for that matter
and im goign to say that after seeing alot on this forum im going to believe just about ANYTHING that bigwig or csaddict says
JoelAllenClear
07-31-2006, 08:37 PM
THe only reason they rear mount on the GM cars is for lack of room under the hood. It wouold be absolutely retarded to do on a Honda.
Psh, we're also talking V8 vs 4-bangers here. Obviously the V8 is going to take up quite a bit more room than a Honda 4-cylinder. Even so, I've still seen GM bay mounted turbos with no problem! The way I see it, you're getting full velocity for turbo spool from an engine with it being right in the bay. :hammer:
I'm 30. You're all kids.
Bwahahaha. That shit just made my night.
whats the deal with all the jocking of this rear mount shit in a few threads???
Isn't that considered spamming??
spiceisler
08-01-2006, 07:28 AM
Back on topic...........whatever I make!
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