Turbo d17 for under $500

[Spitfire32888]

Can i turbo my d17 (2002 civic hx) for less than $500 if so can you guys and gals help me out with some links to some ideas and links to pics of turbo d17's (never seen one) if not what is the cheapest i can do it for? Thanks.

[custom_junky]

good luck with that...i haven't seen any cheap turbo manifolds for the d17...i bet you can probably do a home made set up for less than a 1000 though...

[4gcivic69]

the only way thats happenin is if you fabticate pretty much everything and already have all the metal to frabricate it but maybe alittle over 1500 you could do it

[diz305chico]

doubt it

[Sohc Wrath]

good luck with that...

+1

[Tobias]

$500 bucks is in the range for bottle feeding your d17 not so much a turbo. If your on a budget, that's the best way to go!

[drunknEK9]

$500 bucks is in the range for bottle feeding your d17 not so much a turbo. If your on a budget, that's the best way to go!

Not necessarily....cause if ur on a budget and start spraying then what are you gonna do when u fry ur piston rings or ur engine starts knocking cause nothing was done to it to handle the spray.

[Tobias]

Well then I guess you spend A LITTLE XTRA 2 HANDLE IT!

[Tobias]

Not necessarily....cause if ur on a budget and start spraying then what are you gonna do when u fry ur piston rings or ur engine starts knocking cause nothing was done to it to handle the spray.
Not if your gonna spray a low shot! I'm not talking 75-100 shot! If your that stupid to spray to the point of frying piston rings and knocking the engine, then your better of inhailing your n2o than injecting it 2 your manifold!

[Falcon7]

Not necessarily....cause if ur on a budget and start spraying then what are you gonna do when u fry ur piston rings or ur engine starts knocking cause nothing was done to it to handle the spray.


Everyone thinks N20 is so dangerous... Like 90% of the kits that are out on the market for imports are designed to run a 25-75 HP shot on stock engines and fuel systems with no timing retards or any type of engine management... just bolt in and go.

I know for a fact that the nitrous express stage one EFI wet kit is just like this from my own personal experience and they even state it on their website.

The only time I've even seen nitrous blow up a motor was after I installed a wet kit in a guy's Integra and he decided to spray a 75 shot for about 6 miles of driving on the highway. The recommended spray time with practically any nitrous system is 20 seconds at the most.

Yeah he basically blew the crap out of his motor but it was because of misuse of the system not having the nitrous itself...

[drunknEK9]

Not if your gonna spray a low shot! I'm not talking 75-100 shot! If your that stupid to spray to the point of frying piston rings and knocking the engine, then your better of inhailing your n2o than injecting it 2 your manifold!

inhaling it wont hurt you....n20 is wut they use at dentist offices and hospitals...if uve ever had "laughing gas" thats n20.

[Tobias]

inhaling it wont hurt you....n20 is wut they use at dentist offices and hospitals...if uve ever had "laughing gas" thats n20.
Your dentist uses N20..that's what..20 nitrogen molicules! I know what nitrous oxide is, my mother is a dentist. As you quoted me I said your better off inhailing your nitrous, for a real good buzz, rather that run a 100 shot on stock internals. The person who started this thread wanted a turbo for $500. That's not gonna happen. So I merely suggested to run nitrous @ a low volume to gain some xtra Hp. That's all!

[OniFactor]

n2o used for engines is totally different than the n2o used for laughing gas. FYI.

[Tobias]

Really...how totally different is it?http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/n2o/n2oh.htm

[Falcon7]

N2O for cars and industrial purposes is like 99% N2O and 1% sulfur to keep people from huffing it.

Medical grade N2O is pure N2O since it was made to be inhaled...

Medical and Industrial grade aren't "totally" different but there are differences.

[X292J]

maby if you had a DSM laying around with a thrown rod/colision or something of that matter im sure you could really ghetto fab evrything for 500, having that you already have tools and equipment laying around

[boosted_EF]

i was going to turbo my 04 but I just ended up spraying it because turbos are too much for a 04 and the fuel system is AWFULL. Returnless fuel systems suck because you cant raise the fuel pressure. If you want a good set up you have to make wat cardnoff (spelling?) did on 7thgencivic.com. He did a y8 intake manifold with a a fuel fuel return system so he could play with the fuel pressure.
I had a 75 shot for awhile and really loved and my car still runs fine after abotu 20 bottles run threw the motor.

[fidencio74]

Good Luck

[D money]

inhaling it wont hurt you....n20 is wut they use at dentist offices and hospitals...if uve ever had "laughing gas" thats n20.
WRONG WRONG WRONG.............dont ever inhale nitrous and yes i know what im talking about...try permanent nerve damage just for starters,if you think because you get it at a hospital its safe try a few dozen xrays,if i sound harsh im sorry but i dont want some kid reading that and thinking its ok to inhale the stuff.

[custom_junky]

^^bingo...why do you think dentist don't use the "laughin gas" unless they HAVE to...

[vtec4500]

you can start buy getting a crx hf manifold and a 90 egle turbo from the junk yard

[custom_junky]

you can start buy getting a crx hf manifold and a 90 egle turbo from the junk yard
huh? uuhhhh, you do realize we are talking about a d17 right? the exhuast bolt patterns are no where near the d16 or d15...

[Clutchmaster]

yeah theses guys are right need more you'll need $500 just for pieces to assemble the kit let alone the turbo itself boost in a bottle sir go Nitrous

[whatthehell1051]

Everyone thinks N20 is so dangerous... Like 90% of the kits that are out on the market for imports are designed to run a 25-75 HP shot on stock engines and fuel systems with no timing retards or any type of engine management... just bolt in and go.

I know for a fact that the nitrous express stage one EFI wet kit is just like this from my own personal experience and they even state it on their website.

The only time I've even seen nitrous blow up a motor was after I installed a wet kit in a guy's Integra and he decided to spray a 75 shot for about 6 miles of driving on the highway. The recommended spray time with practically any nitrous system is 20 seconds at the most.

Yeah he basically blew the crap out of his motor but it was because of misuse of the system not having the nitrous itself...


lol yea thats what the compaines tell you.... to sell their product. i wanna see a company say it will last a year on a every weekend shot car without tuning. lmao

[samuraiz]

Sorry to go off topic, but it kinda makes me sad how little love the d17 gets, this dead thread has been on the front of the d17 forum for like 2 weeks now.

[Tobias]

Sorry 2 say, but the d17 is geared more towards economy fuel standards. It's honda's way of beaten the price @ the pump!

[dragman99]

check out 7thgen.com and you'll see why they're not that popular for performance. i surfed it for about a week and saw three threads where people were putting there cars back stock due drivability problems after installing performance mods.

[bodydropped]

i built my kit right at 500.00 bucks. first off this is not the most reliable high boost set up so keep it at 5-7 psi intercooled just to be safe,this set up will work and be relible if the boost is kept low and 5-7 psi is not a joke it makes a big diffrence you can feel.
alright i did this to a dohc zc in a crx
hf manifold 40.00
300zx turbo low miles 125.00 comes with down pipe housing and waste gate set a 5 psi.

exaust piping for intake and down pipe 50.00 pep boys(i know its not pretty but it works and remeber 500.00 is the goal.

oil fitting and oil lines 15.00 aswell as piping couplers from home depot

FMU prices vary i got mine for 100.00 i got ripped though you can get them for 40.00

2.00 check valve to put inbetween your map sensor and throttle body you can get them at petsmart they are used in fish tanks

now its up to ou but you can run a intercooler i used a supra front mount i got for 50.00

i also got me a fancy hks ssq bov it was the most expensive part of the kit it put me right at 500.00

now if you cant use a hf manifold the you need to get a turbo manifold or make one ive made a few out of stock manifolds when you get your turbo make sure it comes with a manifold cut the flange off the bottom then cut the bottom off your stock manifold (measuring for correct fitment of course) and weld it up.this is entirely up to you and will lower the cost of the kit but add to the uglyness and skill level. your gonna need to know how to weld you dont have to be perfect just enough to keep things together and strong.i pretty much did mine with a basic set of hand tools a side grinder with cut off wheels and a mig welder.you can rent them at home depot.

ive attached a picture of my GETTO kit that worked really well for the fuel management i had i ran 10 psi and i held it very well i did later on replace the 300 z turbo with a mitsubishi t 25 tubo for faster spooling i got it for 40.00. for this much boost you need injectors and a tune or dsm 450cc injectors and a safc2 150-200 and tune then you proably at the 700-850.00 range but for 500 you can have boost.

[bodydropped]

its not the most pretty thing to look at but it go the job done just click the picture to bring out the fine getto detail. also check out homemadeturbo.com thats what inspired my kit. hope this helps

[Tobias]

Ok....Now build a turbo for a D17 for $500.00?!!!

[Richie_A_19]

Ok....Now build a turbo for a D17 for $500.00?!!!Exactly... read the title of the thread... or even look in which area the thread is in. D17's are difficult to boost. I am pretty sure $500 is out of the question, unless you get 1/2 the stuff for free. Hell, even older D's are hard to do for $500. Let alone the 7th gen.

[bodydropped]

enlighten me.why is a d17 so hard to boost? and why will a home made kit not work on it when a homemade kit will work on any other d series including the zc and pretty much all b series. and i once thought the 500.00 amount was not possible well as you see in the picture its not. whats the diffrence with the d17 the exaust manifold? is it in a protected enviroment,that motor should nto be any harder to boost that a regular motor.,unless its high compression.if you want difficult try boosting a LT1 firebird formula,would you beleive me if i told you i could do it for 750.00?? i do love it when folks get bent when someone comes along and makes a post like this are they jealous because they blew a butt ton of cash on a kit?they shouldnt be look at mine,it works like yours but looks like crap.i get this alot just expalin the whole d17 thing in all my years i havent heard of it.

[Richie_A_19]

Returnless fuel system.

Intake mani is garbage.

Returnless fuel system.

No parts from other D's (read:hx exhaust mani for a HMT setup) will fit.

Returnless fuel system.

[bodydropped]

Returnless fuel system.

Intake mani is garbage.

Returnless fuel system.

No parts from other D's (read:hx exhaust mani for a HMT setup) will fit.

Returnless fuel system.

i take it the returnless fuel system is a issue for you guys, i dont mean to sound rude but is this motor really worth it? whats wrong with the intake manifold? oh the returnless fuel system does kill the fmu plan,but not injectors and safc of vafc:) it bumps the price up a little but use a dsm B.O.V and throw a extra 50.00 on the price so 550-575.00 should do it.and exust manifolds if you read my first post about modifing a stock manifold this can be done.measure and cut the bottom of your stock manifold and cut the bottom off of a donor turbo manifold from whatever car you get your turbo from,then weld away its rather simple and is actually cheaper than a hf manifold for a d series.it will not crack it will not leak and it will work.
if this guy wants a manifold made he can ship me one to atlanta georgia and i will modify it for free as proof ;)

[custom_junky]

i take it the returnless fuel system is a issue for you guys, i dont mean to sound rude but is this motor really worth it? whats wrong with the intake manifold? oh the returnless fuel system does kill the fmu plan,but not injectors and safc of vafc:) it bumps the price up a little but use a dsm B.O.V and throw a extra 50.00 on the price so 550-575.00 should do it.and exust manifolds if you read my first post about modifing a stock manifold this can be done.measure and cut the bottom of your stock manifold and cut the bottom off of a donor turbo manifold from whatever car you get your turbo from,then weld away its rather simple and is actually cheaper than a hf manifold for a d series.it will not crack it will not leak and it will work.
if this guy wants a manifold made he can ship me one to atlanta georgia and i will modify it for free as proof ;)
for your first quedstion the intake mani is PLASTIC!!!!...and using the VAFCII, will work, but not reliably...you can't change the fuel pressure because of the lack of the return fuel system...

as for the second point, the exhuast manifold...sure you can "try" and modify it to do as you speak of, but it all depends on how good you are with the welding tourch...personnally i would not trust myself to do such a task, maybe you can and that is great...in fact if you are willing to gaurantee your product here is a suggesstion...make up the turbo manis you speak of and sell them on hmt.com...you'll make a decent little amount on the side that is completely under the table...but for the most part a turbo kit for a d17 doesn't come cheap, unless you know exactly what you are doing and are good at it...

[bodydropped]

for your first quedstion the intake mani is PLASTIC!!!!...and using the VAFCII, will work, but not reliably...you can't change the fuel pressure because of the lack of the return fuel system...

as for the second point, the exhuast manifold...sure you can "try" and modify it to do as you speak of, but it all depends on how good you are with the welding tourch...personnally i would not trust myself to do such a task, maybe you can and that is great...in fact if you are willing to gaurantee your product here is a suggesstion...make up the turbo manis you speak of and sell them on hmt.com...you'll make a decent little amount on the side that is completely under the table...but for the most part a turbo kit for a d17 doesn't come cheap, unless you know exactly what you are doing and are good at it...

returnless fuel system is a problem but there are a few options to raise pressure on this type of system and the safc and the vafc are reliable there are many people still running the hack set up in thier cars for years.now there are better tuning set ups avaliable now for less cash so all you need is a good set of injectors and leave the rest up to your tuner as far a socketing and chipping the ecu. and welding isnt as hard as you think I GAURANTEE IT,have a little faith,practice first every time you make a weld smack it with a 3 pound hammer you should be able to pull this off with a days practice with a welder. i have no interest in selling manifolds,only helping others get the confidence to take steps to rule out the expensive performance shop or dealer. and there is a msd fmu ive used before, its completly electric it hooks up to the fuel pump and raises voltage when the unit senses boost pressure through a vacum port it has saftey features to keep from over working factory injectors and is a reliable unit this combined with a msd boost timing master would be sufficent enough there a alot of these avaliable new or used.but if your convinced you "cant" then you never will,i could never live that way leaving everything else up to others,where is the satisfaction? oh well if i can weld then you can weld. i see your from omaha,cool i use to live out there off redman drive i also lived in gothamburg and northplatte mys siter still lives out there in lincon,sorry i miss nebraska beautiful scenery out there :D

[custom_junky]

returnless fuel system is a problem but there are a few options to raise pressure on this type of system and the safc and the vafc are reliable there are many people still running the hack set up in thier cars for years.now there are better tuning set ups avaliable now for less cash so all you need is a good set of injectors and leave the rest up to your tuner as far a socketing and chipping the ecu. and welding isnt as hard as you think I GAURANTEE IT,have a little faith,practice first every time you make a weld smack it with a 3 pound hammer you should be able to pull this off with a days practice with a welder. i have no interest in selling manifolds,only helping others get the confidence to take steps to rule out the expensive performance shop or dealer. and there is a msd fmu ive used before, its completly electric it hooks up to the fuel pump and raises voltage when the unit senses boost pressure through a vacum port it has saftey features to keep from over working factory injectors and is a reliable unit this combined with a msd boost timing master would be sufficent enough there a alot of these avaliable new or used.but if your convinced you "cant" then you never will,i could never live that way leaving everything else up to others,where is the satisfaction? oh well if i can weld then you can weld.
well i have yet to weld, i don't have money for a welder, and have no place to weld at the moment...i concider myself an average user, with the average tools...with this in mind i don't see someone doing the turbo kit...now if i had a garage and the proper tools i could do something about the problem...so yes i can see your point, but again, the average person will not have the proper time/tools/knowledge to do as you are speaking of...i wasn't trying to say its completely impossible, just that for most people what you are speaking of is not really an option...

i see your from omaha,cool i use to live out there off redman drive i also lived in gothamburg and northplatte mys siter still lives out there in lincon,sorry i miss nebraska beautiful scenery out there :Dyou miss the corn fields? hahaha...we just got dumped on with about a foot of snow, and with more on the way tonight...

[sleeperhatch91]

Honestly I wouldn't even worry about it, or just spray it. I have a d17 2004 coupe as a daily driver, and it is completely worthless as a performance car. The engine setup is completely different from all other D-series, it was clearly not made for performance. I'd say just leave it like it is, except for minor bolt ons or maybe some spray but thats about it. If you want a race car get an older civic with a d16z6, d16a6, d16y8, d16y7, d15b, d15b2, d15b7, ZC etc...

[HXDrager97]

do you people know that honda tuning jsut did a how too, on the D17, all except the exhaust mani and turbo.. but they did show how to rough a B20, D17, and a few extras and how to plumb in a fuel return line!

[Rexinre]

do you people know that honda tuning jsut did a how too, on the D17, all except the exhaust mani and turbo.. but they did show how to rough a B20, D17, and a few extras and how to plumb in a fuel return line!

Did they do it for under 500?

[bodydropped]

Did they do it for under 500?
proably not :)

[02civic]

hks makes a turbo manifold for the d17 but it only has a t25 flange www.overboost.com it is $286.65

[02civic]

im doing a turbo set up on my 02 using a mazda speed turbo and a yonaka intercooler. www.revhard.com also has a turbo manifold

[Rexinre]

hks makes a turbo manifold for the d17 but it only has a t25 flange www.overboost.com (http://www.overboost.com) it is $286.65

Thats great and all... but its just the manifold, you still need everything else that goes after it. :alky:

[02civic]

www.turbo-kits.com has a full turbo kit for the d17 it shows every thing you would need the kit on there cost way to much tho

[Rexinre]

You love your websites... lol

Good info... thanks