Waaa?? Nuclear tests caused tsunami?

[makku]

Wow, some people in the world really hate the western world....



Jerusalem Post
January 7, 2005 Egyptian Paper: Israel-India Nuke Test Caused Tsunami



By Joseph Nasr, The Jerusalem Post

The earthquake that struck the Indian Ocean on December 26, triggering a series of huge waves called tsunami, "was possibly" caused by an Indian nuclear experiment in which "Israeli and American nuclear experts participated," an Egyptian weekly magazine reported Thursday.

According to Al-Osboa', India, in its heated nuclear race with Pakistan, has lately received sophisticated nuclear know-how from the United States and Israel, both of which "showed readiness to cooperate with India in experiments to exterminate humankind."

Since 1992, the magazine argued, leading geological centers in Britain, Turkey and other countries, warned of the need "not to hold nuclear experiments in the region of the Indian Ocean known as 'the Fire Belt,' in which the epicenter of the earthquake lies.

Geologists labeled that region 'The Fire Belt' for being "a dangerous terrain that can move at anytime, without human intervention," Al-Osboa' wrote.

Despite warnings not to carry out nuclear experiments in and around the 'Fire Belt', "Israel and India continue to conduct nuclear tests in the Indian Ocean, and the United States has recently decided to carry out similar tests in the Australian deserts, which is included in the 'Fire Belt', the Egyptian weekly magazine wrote.

"Last year only, Arab and Islamic states have asked the United States to stop its nuclear activities in that region, and to urge Israel and India to follow suite," Al-Osboa' reported.

Although Al-Osboa' does not rule out the possibility that the tsunami could have been caused by a natural earthquake it speculates however that, "while it has not been proved yet, there has been a joint Israeli-Indian secret nuclear experiment [conducted on December 26] that caused the earthquake."

The Egyptian weekly magazine concludes in its report that "the exchange of nuclear experts between Israel and India, and US pressure on Pakistan which is exerted by supplying India with state-of-the-art nuclear technology and preventing Islamabad from cooperating with Asian and Islamic states in the nuclear field, pose a big question mark on the causes behind the violent Asian earthquake."

Incitement against Israel and Jews in Egyptian media is usually limited to the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict yet exceptions are known to occur.

In August 2002, the Paris Supreme Court summoned Ibrahim Naafi', editor of the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram, for having authorized the publication of a controversial article entitled 'Jewish matza is made from Arab blood' in the October 28, 2000 edition of the paper.

Naafi' was charged with incitement to anti-Semitism and racist violence.

[Levi]

the theory in fact does sound like it is possible. I would like a little more evidence of when the last tests were conducted to see if the testing did in fact disrupt the "firebelt" recently. That would totally suck if the nuclear testing did in fact disrupt the underground plates and cause the earthquake.

[Rexinre]

yeah, a little more proof... but that would be fucked up if what that article is saying is true!

[skittyscott]

man i hope that shit isnt true...
if there was one thing i could change about the world it would deff be nuclear war

[Rexinre]

man i hope that shit isnt true...
if there was one thing i could change about the world it would deff be nuclear war
I am with you bro!

[Honda4VW]

yeah, a little more proof... but that would be fucked up if what that article is saying is true!
Fucking americans...what a bunch of pricks we are!

[Normworldhero]

B fuckin' S, damn Arab conspiracy theories. They can't live without them. It's a way of life. Where's the proof...oh wait, there never is any.

[Rexinre]

He has a point!^^^

[jb2178]

And we all thought Michael Moore was a conspiracy nut...

[makku]

well, yeah... notice the last paragraph in the article... where the editor of the magazine published a story about arab blood in jewish food. The truth of this article is definitely suspect. This reminds me of that crappy movie "The Core" where the molten core of the earth stopped rotating because of all the shit we did... :)

There's no proof that nuclear tests contribute to earthquakes... BUT, it's not completely farfetched. What's obvious is that the article is meant to be inflammatory.

[chasloa]

This is nothing more than speculation

You can tell the writer had made up his mind on what he thinks caused the quake before actually doing the research. As soon as these people see the opprotunity to jump on western civilization, they jump at it.

Good find nonetheless makku

[Levi]

This is nothing more than speculation


Good find nonetheless makku


:werd: but like I said way above in theory it could happen. I see no proof, so until I do I will say it is just speculation also.

[mikeD16Z6]

That is total BULLSHIT. No possible way a nuke detonated underwater could generate a tsunami.

Back in the 60's the US conducted a deep underwater nuclear shot 300 miles off the coast of California. Guess what? NO tsunami!!!

And the sad thing is people who read that crap actually believe it.

[Rexinre]

well there you have it...

[makku]

That is total BULLSHIT. No possible way a nuke detonated underwater could generate a tsunami.

Back in the 60's the US conducted a deep underwater nuclear shot 300 miles off the coast of California. Guess what? NO tsunami!!!

And the sad thing is people who read that crap actually believe it. i totally agree that the article is worthless...

But, what's interesting is that we (the US) accused Russia in 1997 of testing nuclear weapons when we detected an earthquake in the Arctic Ocean.
http://www.fas.org/faspir/pir1197.htm

Here's an interesting article from Berkeley that says the seismic events might be able to trigger other seismic events (nuclear explosions can trigger earthquakes). They found evidence that it does and does not... so no one knows for sure.
http://www.seismo.berkeley.edu/seismo/faq/nuke_2.html

However, it must be clear that USUALLY nuclear tests are conducted with 100-1000 ton devices. Those are pretty small. They are just to confirm that a warhead will work...

[slebidia]

So if one Amercian scientist participated that means the United States, "showed readiness to cooperate with India in experiments to exterminate humankind."? LOL

[S Q A D]

fuck Egypt :TU:

:)

[bennjamin]

...the tsunami recorded + damage etc would of resulted from some large intergalatic mass- rather than soemthing man-made methinks....I dont think all the nukes in the world could of made a tidal wave that large.

[chasloa]

I say fuck the entire middle east. Lets give them something to cry about and take all of their land.

[95z6exCoupe]

However, it must be clear that USUALLY nuclear tests are conducted with 100-1000 ton devices. Those are pretty small. They are just to confirm that a warhead will work...[/QUOTE]

exactly what I was thinking...seems it would cost a lot of money to detonate a big warhead. just seems logical that they would test a certain warhead design on a smaller scale, then develop a bigger weapon based on that for actual use, although I have no personal knowledge whatsoever on nukes, just seems to make sense. All in all, that seems pretty far fetched. I have read a weird article or two from the Middle East, and a lot of that stuff is alot of anti-American propoganda and anti-Israel. Not all of it, but it does happen more often than not.

[mikeD16Z6]

Most countries aren't allowed to do ANY nuclear testing anymore.
It's called the nuclear test ban treaty. http://www.clw.org/control/ctbt.html

170 countries signed it
http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ctbtsig.asp


If there was a nuclear incident I'm sure it could be detected. Somebody should go out there with a Geiger counter and prove those assholes wrong.

[makku]

the US never signed it.

ok, they did... but never ratified it. Meaning, that the signature doesn't count.

[infinatenexus]

B fuckin' S, damn Arab conspiracy theories. They can't live without them. It's a way of life. Where's the proof...oh wait, there never is any.Its just one more lame attempt by Arabs to focus hate and violence againse the Us, and Israel.


In August 2002, the Paris Supreme Court summoned Ibrahim Naafi', editor of the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram, for having authorized the publication of a controversial article entitled 'Jewish matza is made from Arab blood' in the October 28, 2000 edition of the paper.

I remember that..... too bad the bread isn't Red...lol. Fucking idiot... blood would mae it Non-Kosher.. we wouldnt' eat it.

[ryan89crx]

So if one Amercian scientist participated that means the United States, "showed readiness to cooperate with India in experiments to exterminate humankind."? LOLdidnt you know? everything bad that happens in the world is americas fault.

[infinatenexus]

didnt you know? everything bad that happens in the world is americas fault

Its all Bush's fault........LMAO....

[infinatenexus]

fuck Egypt :TU:

:)
It wouldn't be too hard.. the Egypitan military hasent evolved since the 1970's. But the US also gives them millions each year.

[greddytunedhatch]

I saw this on another board, really cool/sad pics from a satelite of before/after.

http://homepage.mac.com/demark/tsunami/9.html

[modsHXcivi]

didnt you know? everything bad that happens in the world is americas fault.

but yet we help so many other countries .....that is our biggest fault

[cryz2]

I say fuck the entire middle east. Lets give them something to cry about and take all of their land.dose that include Israel too ??

[chasloa]

dose that include Israel too ??

yes

[cryz2]

ok glad too see a well balanced view just a butch of teroriss that have gone legit . thay were the first to send letter bombs, just not a fan of pepole why use treor tactics then when thay have them used againts them say it not on !

[infinatenexus]

ok glad too see a well balanced view just a butch of teroriss that have gone legit . thay were the first to send letter bombs, just not a fan of pepole why use treor tactics then when thay have them used againts them say it not on !

Perhaps you should look at the threat Israel faces before you point fingers. It wasn't Israel who started it, and its not Israel who pours fuel on the fire daily. In 1948 Israel was extremely clear on its intentions to be a peaceful nation where all religions and races could live in harmony. Every single Arab nation aided in some part in the war of 1948, a failed attempt to eradicate Jews from the middle east.

Honestly I wish the US would but out, then Israel could solve the problem once and for all. The US is a major hindrances to Israelis peace, and security. Israel is the only country on earth who is expected to live with the threat of genocide and be happy about it.

[makku]

i blame religion in general.

[cryz2]

i think you need to look at the history books mate , look at the bombings done by the so call freedom fighters , errrrrrr yes the ones who killed and bombed british before 1947

[cryz2]

the bombing of British headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem--a "terrorist" bombing, of course, except that it was carried out by a man who was later to become Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin.

NUFF SAID

[infinatenexus]

i think you need to look at the history books mate , look at the bombings done by the so call freedom fighters , errrrrrr yes the ones who killed and bombed british before 1947


I am from Israel"mate".. I know all about my peoples history. You seem to forget, Israel has never threatened any nation with genocide, as every single Arab neighbor has threatened Israel since 1948.


i blame religion in general.


I blame Islam

[infinatenexus]

the bombing of British headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem--a "terrorist" bombing, of course, except that it was carried out by a man who was later to become Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin.

NUFF SAID


Do you really want to compare terrorist activities? Do you have any clue what my people have been through for the last 3300 years?

[cryz2]

3300 years oh man look my point was that one "mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist" depending on what side you are on ,
as for me i was just making a point OK

[infinatenexus]

3300 years oh man look my point was that one "mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist" depending on what side you are on ,
as for me i was just making a point OK


I see your point, but you fail to look at one key aspect of being a “Freedom Fighter”.... you have to be fighting for freedom. To date I can’t thing of a single enemy of Israel who was interested in "Freedom", genocide of the Jewish people, yes... but definitely not freedom.

[cryz2]

yep i am with you on that , but i just think its bad news when pepole say thay do not serport any form of terrorist !!!! but have serported and used terrorist methords in the past !!!!! this was a major part how Israel was formed , also the whole thing about the IRA fund rasing in the USA in the 80s , the USA gave more than 10000$ to noraid this payed for ak47 and semtex from LYBIA

[cryz2]

the jawish pepole wanted a home state so that took it by arms
the Palestinons want a home state so what do thay do?

[infinatenexus]

yep i am with you on that , but i just think its bad news when pepole say thay do not serport any form of terrorist !!!! but have serported and used terrorist methords in the past !!!!! this was a major part how Israel was formed


Actually that's not a major way Israel was formed, its just the most well known.


also the whole thing about the IRA fund rasing in the USA in the 80s , the USA gave more than 10000$ to noraid this payed for ak47 and semtex from LYBIA

Good, Britain got what they disserved.

[cryz2]

yo man dont even start cant you have a debate with out starting a fight
man i can tell you are from israel

[infinatenexus]

the jawish pepole wanted a home state so that took it by arms
the Palestinons want a home state so what do thay do?


Jews bought a large portion of that land in 1870. The only major force that was used was in the defense of Israel in the war of 1948. the Palestinians had a chance to have a “nation”, they turned it down. You seem to forget, Jews have inhabited that land far longer than Arabs. Arabs control something like 6 million square miles of land, seems like they could find a home for the "Palestinians" that they created.

Oh wait...that's right over 90% of the people running around calling themselves “Palestinians” and not from anywhere close to Israel.

[infinatenexus]

yo man dont even start cant you have a debate with out starting a fight man i can tell you are from israel


You should try a little harder to hide your Anti-Semitism.

[cryz2]

NO sorry we are having a debate about terrorist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what have i said that is anit semetic

[cryz2]

Good, Britain got what they disserved.



i think this was a bit more radical than anything i have said

[infinatenexus]

NO sorry we are having a debate about terrorist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No, you were slandering Israel, others were having a debate about terrorist.

what have i said that is anit semetic

:roll:

[infinatenexus]

i think this was a bit more radical than anything i have said


The first sign of guilt, diverting attention from your own actions. :neutral:

[cryz2]

slandering Israel no i was putting a out siders point of across , just cos i do not agre with you dose that make me anti semetic ???????????

[cryz2]

my points were all valid,
being anti isreal is not being anti sermetic ,

[infinatenexus]

slandering Israel no i was putting a out siders point of across , just cos i do not agre with you dose that make me anti semetic ???????????

Second sign of guilt, questioning ones own actions in an attempt to seem innocent.


my points were all valid


No, your points were all misinformed propaganda.



being anti isreal is not being anti sermetic

Third sign of guilt, making statements to clarify ones actions.

[cryz2]

i do not agree with what pakistan is doing dose that make me anti islam

[cryz2]

propaganda from who ????????? history books

[infinatenexus]

propaganda from who ????????? history books


LMAO.. dude... nothing you posted was accurate.

How about you take a Judaic history class, or four, at your local university, then come back and see me... don't waist anymore bandwidth with your inaccurate version of history.

[cryz2]

so this did not happen the bombing of British headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem--a "terrorist" bombing, of course, except that it was carried out by a man who was later to become Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin.
or was it just propaganda lololol

[ryan89crx]

damn, this is just a 2 person argument all of a sudden

[cryz2]

its a debate not an argument lololol

[infinatenexus]

so this did not happen the bombing of British headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem--a "terrorist" bombing, of course, except that it was carried out by a man who was later to become Prime Minister of Israel, Menachem Begin.
or was it just propaganda lololol


How about you take a Judaic history class, or four, at your local university, then come back and see me... don't waist anymore bandwidth with your inaccurate version of history.

[cryz2]

lololol is that all you have to say !!!!!!!!!!!! so this did not happen ??????????

[infinatenexus]

lololol is that all you have to say !!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually it is all I have to “say“. You are far too ill equipped to debate this subject with me.

[infinatenexus]

lololol is that all you have to say !!!!!!!!!!!! so this did not happen ??????????

Can you not make a post with out having to alter it later on?

[cryz2]

so was it propaganda then or did it not happen ?

[infinatenexus]

so was it propaganda then or did it not happen ?


The version you posted was nothing more than the finest Anti-Israel propaganda the world has to offer. Like I posted previously, take numerous college level classes on this subject before continuing.

[cryz2]

ok so it did not happen

[cryz2]

and how am i ill equipped to debate this with you

[infinatenexus]

ok so it did not happen

Please, give it a rest, and go study this topic for a couple of years, then ask me the same question.

[cryz2]

thanks for the debate

[infinatenexus]

and how am i ill equipped to debate this with you


Have you relentlessly studied the history of the Jewish people for over a decade? Have you attended a Yeshiva, or studied anything related to Judaism at an accredited university? Have you even seen a Torah scroll? Were you raised in Israel? Has your family inhabited the holy land since the time of Kings Solomon and David? Did any members of your family die due to Islamic terrorism? Please tell me that your grandparents were tortured by members of an Arab army trying to remove all traces of Judaism from the earth?

Until you can answer “Yes” to all those stipulations you are ill equipped to debate this topic with me.

[cryz2]

to have a debate dont you have to have two sides ?

[makku]

I was gonna write something long, but decided not to...

Infinate... you've got some good points, but if you're not willing to expand on them (answer his questions) you're weakening your own position. It's not like he's asking dumb questions... if he's uninformed, give him the facts.

[infinatenexus]

I was gonna write something long, but decided not to...

Infinate... you've got some good points, but if you're not willing to expand on them (answer his questions) you're weakening your own position. It's not like he's asking dumb questions... if he's uninformed, give him the facts.

Once he posted "yo man dont even start cant you have a debate with out starting a fight man i can tell you are from israel" I lost all respect for him, or his opinion. If he wants to learn he can do it on his own, I have no interest in helping him.

[cryz2]

Actually that's not a major way Israel was formed, its just the most well known.




Good, Britain got what they disserved.


this was nasty , we were talking and then you got you knickers in a twist
that was why i repled with what i said
Ahavat Yisra'el allo i can say is we need to talk a bit more and not fight
the pen is mighter than the sward
one love

[infinatenexus]

להסות... אידיוט

[cryz2]

זיין מבחור של ליטאל

[Charles]

I think the tsunami was caused by this avatar:
http://www.d-series.org/forums/image.php?u=726&dateline=2004

לא יכול כולנו להסתדר?

[makku]

woah... it's on a new level now :)

[S Q A D]

להסות... אידיוט

??????

what is that ?

[infinatenexus]

??????

what is that ?

Looks like we found the Goy in the group.:)



ישראל :beer:




לא יכול כולנו להסתדר?

בפסקנות

[cryz2]

so some one that dose no think the same as you is anti sermetic now? mmmmmmmmm
cos i do not think the poliltics of isreal is right that makes me anti sermetic ?
get your head out of your ass and fix up

[chasloa]

??????

what is that ?

probably israeli text

[mikeD16Z6]

It's Hebrew, not Israeli.

And let's all just chill out before another thread gets locked up.

[gftgrill]

ibtl free post

[87zc1crx]

Nuclear? Earthquake? WTF!
Man! Get real!
Why do we humans have to control and explain everything?
Fuck! It seems that everytime something happens men has to have a logical and simple explanation.
People! We don´t control the planet and life.
Why do we always have to explain or control everything? there´s so much to be learned that it pisses me of!
It could be anything, but i don´t really care. It can hapen to me, you or someone else.
Strange is that we don´t get this stuff everyday... or we aren´t informed...

Please get real and don´t start to blaim anyone yet.
By the time we´re able to explain everything we don´t exist anymore ;)

[infinatenexus]

so some one that dose no think the same as you is anti sermetic now? mmmmmmmmm
cos i do not think the poliltics of isreal is right that makes me anti sermetic ?
get your head out of your ass and fix up


Your vulgarity, and threat of violence in the Pm you sent me is a disgrace to all of Father Abraham's children.


By the way, its Semitic, not sermetic.

[cryz2]

you think your so smart , just cos you rote it in hebrew you think you can take the piss !!!!naaaa cos i can read it too and you got sussed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chasloa]

another thread bites the dust.........

[chasloa]

BTW, I read in the WSJ yesterday that a Thai Meteorologist's warning was ignored in 1998.

"Smith Dharmasaroja's Tsunami Fears caused panic,k scorn in '98 'We Thought it was a joke'" <<<<<<<<the headline

[S Q A D]

you people need to learn how to argue without insulting each other .......