State of the World [Archive]

makku

11-09-2004, 03:17 PM

Let me preface this by saying I DON'T think the war in Iraq is the cause:

I was very saddened to see that in Holland, a prominent artist (Van Gogh - distant relative of the painter) was murdered by Muslim extremists. The murderer even pinned a note to the body saying that the Jewish mayor of Amsterdam was next.

Now there have been retaliations... a Muslim school was set on fire with graffiti showing it was revenge for the artist's death.

This is just sad because the rising tensions in the Middle East is most definitely responsible for the start of this chaos. I really don't think that anyone is doing anything real to stop this. Sure, the U.S. is trying to stop the terrorists but they're ignoring general Muslim opinion. The rest of the world is just sitting idly by. I think there's going to be a lot more of this in the future and I am not looking forward to it.

save a civic

11-09-2004, 03:27 PM

i agree makku. the U.S. cant babysit everyone in the world. where is everyone else in this?

Rexinre

11-09-2004, 03:29 PM

I actually heard that France was re-thinking their side in the war on terror... Not to get off subject. I can not confirm this though!

makku

11-09-2004, 03:54 PM

I actually heard that France was re-thinking their side in the war on terror... Not to get off subject. I can not confirm this though!

First I heard of this... it wouldn't surprise me though. They made their point... that they're not the U.S.'s bitches... unlike Tony Blair or Koizumi (japan) :)

Sigh, all these arrogant countries just want power. France thinks they can take an equal stance against the U.S. now with the European union since they're currently a major player in it. The U.S. is trying to be big daddy and so we get mad that the french are resisting us. Japan thinks they can remain a big player by hanging on the coat tails of the U.S.... their economy kind of depends on it. I don't know wtf is going on with Britain... their Prime Minister and Parliament are severely divided.

The same shit is going on in Iran. First, the E.U. is negotiating to stop the Iranians' nuclear program. They're offering big economic incentives. This is kind of a slap in the face of the U.S.'s policy... since they went and did this without consulting the U.S. But, then, I don't think the U.S.'s bullying policy would have helped too much...

Ahhhh... the world is becoming a very unsafe place.

Sonny7730

11-09-2004, 04:17 PM

it's very scary to think what's happening in this world....the middle east is an EXTREMELY unstable place...and I'm not looking forward to what the future holds for it

NastyHabitzCRX

11-09-2004, 08:54 PM

it's very scary to think what's happening in this world....the middle east is an EXTREMELY unstable place...and I'm not looking forward to what the future holds for itif you look at history in general, the middle east has never been stable, its the mixing pool for so many religons. and of course religon to many people is a touchy subject.
funnt how thats where most religons got started and it seems for the most part, the people in those places arent more tolerant:beer:

icarusdown

11-10-2004, 12:33 AM

Another reason that the middle is so gaddam unstable is because the countries of the modern western world have spent much time and effort trying to make the middle east a 'private resource' for the west. Modern countries go in with military, financial, and commercial institutions to try and control the immensily important resource of energy. They establish puppet gov't's everywhere, fund rebellions, and support commercialized elitists.
So basically, I'm not sure what should be done to even begin restoring order over there. But, putting our hands in the mix will never help. It's just (as somebody said) "more of the same!"
.02

-ic

infinatenexus

11-10-2004, 04:00 AM

The same shit is going on in Iran. First, the E.U. is negotiating to stop the Iranians' nuclear program. They're offering big economic incentives. This is kind of a slap in the face of the U.S.'s policy... since they went and did this without consulting the U.S. But, then, I don't think the U.S.'s bullying policy would have helped too much...

I saw we give them a choice, either distroy there nuclear program, or we'll do it for them.

Ahhhh... the world is becoming a very unsafe place.
It has always been this way,the only differance is now you have the media spreading frar and paranoia all over the globe.

save a civic

11-10-2004, 10:08 AM

It has always been this way,the only differance is now you have the media spreading frar and paranoia all over the globe.

-right you are.... :werd:

makku

11-10-2004, 11:28 AM

ok, let me qualify my statement... the world is becoming less safe.

I've travelled tons... and while it's true the media is spreading paranoia... I kind of don't want to go visit my aunt in Marseilles anymore. That city is pretty much half-Muslim.

The joke goes like this: What's the first Arab city in the Paris-Dakkar Rally? Marseilles.

rotory20

11-10-2004, 12:10 PM

Thats why I have cc license....
a 9mm with platic tips and 45 hollows..
And i can USE THEM!!! for anyone I feel is a threat to me, my family or proerty!

save a civic

11-10-2004, 12:13 PM

Thats why I have cc license....
a 9mm with platic tips and 45 hollows..
And i can USE THEM!!! for anyone I feel is a threat to me, my family or proerty!

here here!!!! :werd:

rotory20

11-10-2004, 12:19 PM

Thank you save a civic..

infinatenexus

11-10-2004, 07:16 PM

I am all about the 7.62X39mm :beer:

save a civic

11-11-2004, 09:59 AM

judo always helps too. bullets are last resort but ARE a resort, wont hesitate. :werd:

Steve-O

11-11-2004, 12:20 PM

I agree that some countries need help to fight their battles and it is only human nature to want to join the cause for human rights and freedoms.

However, one of these times the US political and moral agenda, althought good intentioned, is going to step on the wrong set of toes one too many times.

Remember Vietnam?

P.S. I am in no way hating on the US, intentionally or otherwise.

Sonny7730

11-11-2004, 12:31 PM

naw, you're right man. we're going to piss off the wrong country or try to control the wrong country, and somebody will send nukes our way...then it'll all be over.

save a civic

11-11-2004, 12:40 PM

naw, you're right man. we're going to piss off the wrong country or try to control the wrong country, and somebody will send nukes our way...then it'll all be over.

i'm not touching that one... that's what i tell my wife... (she's korean) heh heh.....

Steve-O

11-11-2004, 03:47 PM

I'm telling you this..if one day I am going to die by ICBMs because some country played with another's last nerve, I'll be fuckin pissed.

And we all know what happens when someone dies in the grip of a powerful rage.....
http://www.juonthemovie.com/images/dt/dt01_800_600.jpg

Yes I saw the movie this weekend

Top Aussie

11-11-2004, 03:54 PM

Steve-O

11-11-2004, 04:01 PM

what the fuck is that shit man??? that looks like some scary shit!!?
It's from a movie they released here called THE GRUDGE about a Japanese curse which is born when someone dies in the grip of a powerful rage.

Not to get OT here but the movie is seriously scary shit. If we do get nuked by some country, heaven help anyone left over when my JU-ON curse is born

NastyHabitzCRX

11-13-2004, 12:52 PM

i rented that movie last night at blockbuster will it scare the shit outta me or what?:beer:

Steve-O

11-13-2004, 01:28 PM

i rented that movie last night at blockbuster will it scare the shit outta me or what?:beer:
I saw the one with Sarah Michelle Gellar at the theatre last Saturday. NOt sure if the one u rented will be the same but the one I saw was scary as hell.

confuc1ous

12-07-2004, 12:22 AM

maybe its time people started to see the hate and destruction the Islamic world would bring to the west. I know it sounds so bad but its not all bad, see, although i would never vote for the man, GW is still in office and if its left to him, the next four years will spell misery for a lot of islamic extremists, so, GW, even though i would poke your eyes out if we met, I salute you.

infinatenexus

12-07-2004, 04:39 AM

so, GW, even though i would poke your eyes out if we met, I salute you.
Bauhaaaaaaa...:bigrofl:

infinatenexus

12-07-2004, 05:08 AM

Sure, the U.S. is trying to stop the terrorists but they're ignoring general Muslim opinion. The rest of the world is just sitting idly by. I think there's going to be a lot more of this in the future and I am not looking forward to it.
How about this, the general Muslim populace has done absolutely nothing to stop, or even denounce terrorism5. It completely baffles me how Islam is the only religion allowed to murder innocent women and children, and the rest of the world sits by and watches... too scared to do anything because it might not be politically correct. If I was to blow up a bus full of people in the name of Judaism people would riot in the streets, and burn synagogues.