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Belette
10-12-2004, 03:27 PM
How much stock spring retainers are strong ? Enough to handle aftermarket spring like Single or dual Skunk2 ones ?

thanx
Arachnid
10-12-2004, 04:24 PM
probably not. i'd change them if i was getting springs. i'd do it all at once
Belette
10-12-2004, 05:28 PM
Aftermarket retainers are lighter to higher reving, are they much stronger than stock ?

thanx a lot
AgentJam
10-12-2004, 05:30 PM
Aftermarket retainers are lighter to higher reving, are they much stronger than stock ?

thanx a lotsome people dont want aftermarket because they are lighter and the "think" that aftermarkets will be "weaker."

I've heard of many using aftermarket springs with stock rets.

EDIT: but i wouldn't

Vince
Belette
10-12-2004, 05:40 PM
Some personal experiences ?
92SIvic
10-12-2004, 06:39 PM
im using stock retainers.. a buddy of mine is using them in his fully built c5, takes it to 9500 daily.
92SIvic
10-12-2004, 06:40 PM
aftermarket wear too quickly...
Arachnid
10-12-2004, 08:31 PM
my stock ones broke in half with my zex 2 cam.
92SIvic
10-12-2004, 09:07 PM
what kind of damage did that do? how long did they last?
stock or aftermarket springs? how high of an rpm where you taking them to?
now you got me scared about mine..
Arachnid
10-12-2004, 09:15 PM
i right about hit vtec and booom, big boom from my engine. i was a little far from home so i forced the car to drive a few more blocks. came out: retainer broke in half, valve contact piston, piston blow up, rod break, crankshaft throwaway, head smashed to peaces by the valve being pushed up, dizzy got stuck and broke, motor practically useless.
92SIvic
10-12-2004, 10:25 PM
on stock springs, just a 59300?
shit.. i might change mine now then... its just that aftermarket retainers only have a life of around 40,000km
gftgrill
10-13-2004, 07:00 AM
if you change the springs and use stock retainers, buy new stock retainers. his had over 150,000 miles on them. (IIRC) they will last longer. they won't be as light, but I don't plan on reving to 10k on my sohc.

there are many people here who have stock retainers and others have aftermarket. if you're going full race then get the aftermarket. if you want to drive daily then get stock.
aLLmTr12secEH1
10-13-2004, 10:14 AM
i have crower retainers and valvesprings on JG 85VT80 camshaft in my d16z6 took it to 8krpm pretty smooth but i dont do it often jsut once while checking on the ecu
Belette
10-13-2004, 01:06 PM
because I'm planing to rev about 8000, with stock retainer and slunk2 valvespring all of this with delta 272....
mynameistin
10-13-2004, 03:40 PM
so the zex59300 cam...people would reccomend upgradings the springs and retainers even if your head had basiclly ben rebuilt to stock specs or what?
oldschoolteg
10-13-2004, 09:19 PM
i have stock retainers with an a6 race cam and isky springs. 8k every once and a while. I have no fear. But the lift on the vtec cams is way differ from mine. :haha:
Arachnid
10-13-2004, 10:04 PM
in my mind just get something other then your old retainers. mine hit 7200 rpms more than several times a day everyday.

be safe or be sorry your choice! note: i had a rare thing happen when my retainer broke, not most retainers break.
Rexinre
10-14-2004, 06:09 AM
You should upgrade your spings and retainers when you do a higher lift cam. Its just something you should do. Its like changing a clutch with a new throwout bearing, you just do it because they go hand and hand.
aLLmTr12secEH1
10-14-2004, 11:35 AM
I have a brand new set of JG retainers for d16z6/y8 but the problem is that its missing one so there's a total of 15 all together maybe somebody might be interested in this so just hit me up