d17 swap into d16 (stroke) - D-series.org

97ekciv · 05-22-2009, 06:14 PM

iv heard you can put alll internals from a d17 into a d16 block and it strokes the d16, but what all parts are required and how hard is it to do this stroke swap to a d16 block? and if theres any mods, i have to do to the block/head its self

baron340 · 05-22-2009, 06:24 PM

D18Y8 engine build - D-series.org

That should tell you most of what you need to know.

gmcuajo · 05-22-2009, 06:55 PM

You have a 7th-gen or a 6th-gen civic?
If you already have a 6th-gen d16, I think is easier to put the entire d17 block, but nobody agree...

LoSt GhoSt · 05-22-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gmcuajo

You have a 7th-gen or a 6th-gen civic?
If you already have a 6th-gen d16, I think is easier to put the entire d17 block, but nobody agree...

Well, its been talked over and over again that you can mate a d17 block to a d16 head with some machining but I have yet to see one of the tries running.

sql_civic · 05-23-2009, 01:56 PM

The problem with the D17 block is that you're stuck with the D17 head. Then if you want to try and use a D16 head there's a problem where they don't quite mate up. Swapping internals isn't that big a deal really.

Belette · 05-23-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LoSt GhoSt

Well, its been talked over and over again that you can mate a d17 block to a d16 head with some machining but I have yet to see one of the tries running.

No, it doesn't work. nothing align. You don't remember ? Vou've suscribed to this thread, and participate to it.

http://d-series.org/forums/engine-bu...-can-done.html

gmcuajo · 05-26-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Belette

No, it doesn't work. nothing align. You don't remember ? Vou've suscribed to this thread, and participate to it.

http://d-series.org/forums/engine-bu...-can-done.html

Just two oil drain doesn't align.

sql_civic · 05-26-2009, 09:20 PM

There's more to it if you actully want to put this motor in a chassis. The other issues are the engine mounts, brackets, and crank pulley. You need to fabricate the front engine mounts if you're planning on installing the block in a EG or EK chassis. The D16 pulley doesn't fit on a D17 crank. I believe only 3 of the 4 holes in the D16 A/C bracket line up and I think you have to fab the alternator bracket as well.

Belette · 05-27-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sql_civic

There's more to it if you actully want to put this motor in a chassis. The other issues are the engine mounts, brackets, and crank pulley. You need to fabricate the front engine mounts if you're planning on installing the block in a EG or EK chassis. The D16 pulley doesn't fit on a D17 crank. I believe only 3 of the 4 holes in the D16 A/C bracket line up and I think you have to fab the alternator bracket as well.

No need of front engine mount.

Have you ever seen f22 or h22 swap with front engine mount installed ?

baron340 · 05-27-2009, 06:58 AM

Why do you guys always go way off topic with stuff he didn't even ask about? As pertaining to this argument it doesn't matter at all if a d16 head will fit on a d17 block or visa versa, that argument has been beaten to death many times. He was asking about what is involved in putting d17 internals into a d16 block. The only mention of helping him has been that the d16 crank pulley won't fit on the d17 crank.

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sql_civic D-series post SLUT iTrader: (27) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,602 Rep Power: 8 View My Photo Gallery	The problem with the D17 block is that you're stuck with the D17 head. Then if you want to try and use a D16 head there's a problem where they don't quite mate up. Swapping internals isn't that big a deal really. __________________ FS: OEM D16Y7/Y8 parts: Toyo rad cap, Y7/Y8: water neck, dipstick tube, brackets, Y7: IM, IACV The D18 1.8 liter d-series build thread Boosting the D18

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sql_civic D-series post SLUT iTrader: (27) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,602 Rep Power: 8 View My Photo Gallery	There's more to it if you actully want to put this motor in a chassis. The other issues are the engine mounts, brackets, and crank pulley. You need to fabricate the front engine mounts if you're planning on installing the block in a EG or EK chassis. The D16 pulley doesn't fit on a D17 crank. I believe only 3 of the 4 holes in the D16 A/C bracket line up and I think you have to fab the alternator bracket as well. __________________ FS: OEM D16Y7/Y8 parts: Toyo rad cap, Y7/Y8: water neck, dipstick tube, brackets, Y7: IM, IACV The D18 1.8 liter d-series build thread Boosting the D18

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05-22-2009, 06:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
baron340 Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 2	D18Y8 engine build - D-series.org That should tell you most of what you need to know.

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gmcuajo D-Series cadet iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 386 Rep Power: 5	You have a 7th-gen or a 6th-gen civic? If you already have a 6th-gen d16, I think is easier to put the entire d17 block, but nobody agree...

05-27-2009, 06:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
baron340 Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 2	Why do you guys always go way off topic with stuff he didn't even ask about? As pertaining to this argument it doesn't matter at all if a d16 head will fit on a d17 block or visa versa, that argument has been beaten to death many times. He was asking about what is involved in putting d17 internals into a d16 block. The only mention of helping him has been that the d16 crank pulley won't fit on the d17 crank.

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